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Does anyone see the significance in jordan's character?
ReplyDelete-Angelica deguzman per 5
I personally don't see any major significance in her character other than that she seems to be the complete polar opposite from Daisy...
Delete-Jesse Barajas per 5
Jordan's appearance makes her look like a successful being (golf champion and beauty). This however is not the case, since Jordan's inner personality contrasts what people envision her as. Her dishonesty and snobby attitude completely differs from others. It's almost ironic how such a seemingly extraordinary person ends up using underhanded tactics to get what they want (similar to Gatsby).
Delete- Matthew Ebreo
I agree with Jesse. I don't think there is much significance to Jordan. I think it just shows a different side of Nick. He was all for honesty, but was interested in her.
Delete-Jessica Fong
Per 5
I think Jordan's dishonest and negleting character signifies how the rich people of East Egg have very poor moral values. Fitzgerald uses Jordan's character as a kind of support and justification of Tom and Daisy's carelessness(that the rich were one and the same). Furthermore, her deception at her golf tournament exemplifies that the rich can get away with anything, just as Daisy and Tom escaped the consequeces of Myrtle's hit-and-run accident.
Delete-Andrea Laserna
Per. 5
Jordan seems to be a dishonest character (i.e.she cheated in the golf tournament) and a reckless person since Nick criticizes her driving. This is ironic since Nick, whose personality is the opposite, starts dating her.
DeleteI think that Jordan’s character was put in to add an element of romance as well as to enhance Nick’s viewpoint on the ‘rotten bunch’ that he and Gatsby interacted with.
DeleteBrandon Cate, Per 5
I agree with both Brandon and Andrea because Jordan is normally just "there" through the novel. She will talk to Nick as they start dating and the other characters, but there's really no conflict around her other than the fact that she's dishonest.
DeleteErin Resurreccion
Period 6
I think Fitzgerald is trying to show the "new woman" at that time period. She has somewhat boyish and self-centered that contrasts to Daisy's view of women at that time.
DeleteDoes anybody think that the reason why Daisy kept her distance from Gatsby after the accident was because he reminded her of the whole event and she just wanted to forget about it? not because she might have not really loved him...
ReplyDeleteJesse, I believe that Daisy came to realize that she only loved Gatsby for his wealth. And after finding out how Gatsby obtained this wealth, she fell back to Tom because of his inherited and old money. In addition, Tom's respected family name and position in the elite class give Daisy a reason to stay with him.
Delete- Matthew Ebreo P5
I think she just realized it was for the better to stay away from him. He told her that he would take the blame for the accident. She must have known that she (or he since he would take the blame) would not get away with the crime.
DeleteArianna Montano Per. 6
I think she just didn't love him. I mean she didn't even attend his funeral. Daisy didn't seem sad when Nick saw he; she seemed excited to move into her new home more than anything. They were both trying to recapture something that wasn't there anymore.
DeleteI think there were several reasons that Daisy stayed away from Gatsby after the accident. First, I think she was scared out of her mind about the whole ordeal, especially the fact that she killed Mrs. Wilson. I think she was afraid that someone would find out that she did it. She never told Tom that she was driving the car. After the shock of the accident, I believe that she wanted to go back to her comfort zone—Tom and her child.
DeleteBrandon Cate, Per 5
I think Daisy did love Gatsby, but she realized that she has a husband that she loves and a daughter to take care of. I think that Daisy loved Tom more than Gatsby. She left New York with Tom and did not even attend Gatsby's funeral.
DeleteClara Kwon P6
Daisy might have felt guilty for killing Mrs. Wilson and wanted to forget about it. Regarding Daisy's relationship with Gatsby, she did love him in the beginning, but now that she has a kid with Tom, Daisy couldn't have just moved on with Gatsby.
DeleteIt could also be that Tom did not let her. I think he's a very controlling and jealous character (as well as a hypocrite) in the novel. He's having an affair with Myrtle, but when he suspects something between Gatsby and Daisy he loses it. He accuses Gatsby of earning his wealth through crimes and forces Daisy through terrible situations (ruined party, trip to NY, etc). In the end he had his reasons, he may have loved Daisy, but he could have restrained her from even attending Gatsby's funeral due to jealousy.
DeleteErin Resurreccion
Period 6
i think she just realized that she already had a husband and a child so she thought of her summer affair as a mistake. she probably did avoid Gatsby to forget it all, but i think she ultimately just blew off Gatsby as another suitor as if back to her past
ReplyDeleteIs there any symbolic meaning to the difference between Gatsby's and Nick's houses? Nick's being simplistic, little, and manageable; while Gatsby has a lavish and ginormous mansion?
ReplyDelete- Matthew Ebreo P5
Yes, I do believe that there is symbolism behind the contrast in Gatsby's and Nick's houses. I think that the descriptions of the houses could further support the differences between Gatsby and Nick themselves, personality-wise. Gatsby has this image of superiority which stems from his high hopes and dreams of being wealthy and worthy enough for Daisy. On the other hand, Nick is a simple, observant man who in my opinion has no other desire than to have a fresh start from his life in the West.
Delete-Andrea Laserna
Per. 5
Gatsby's and Nick's houses have opposite aspects. Nick's simplistic house is compared to Gatsby's enourmous mansion. And I think that it emphasizes Gatsby's wealth, which he desired it so that he can be a person appropriate to Daisy.
DeleteClara Kwon P6
In addition, is it also just coincidence that Nick's house is right next to Gatsby's? Could it possibly illustrate how Nick usually stays on the sidelines and only observes how things are going?
ReplyDelete- Matthew Ebreo P5
I think that Nick's house being right next to Gatsby's could represent not only Nick's ability to observe from the sidelines, but also how Nick was the only person who truly cared for Gatsby in the end. Nick stayed by Gatsby's "side", organizing and attending his funeral. The proximity of their houses could symbolize the degree of closeness their realtionship ultimately had and the amount of care Nick had towards Gatsby.
Delete-Andrea Laserna
Per. 5
I think that the author wanted Nick to be the one who can most accurately and objectively observe Gatsby. And Nick is the one who tells the whole story of Gatsby trying to get back together with Daisy. In the end, we could also see that Nick was actually the only person who really cared about Gatsby.
DeleteClara Kwon P6
Yes, it is important that not only does Nick observe, but he sets up Gatsby's and Daisy's reunion after five years. Nick being Gatsby's neighbor is significant because like the good neighbor Nick is, he is the only good friend that stays with Gatsby until the end.
DeleteDo you guys think that Daisy was actually Gatsby's greenlight?
ReplyDelete-Jessica Fong
Period 5
Yes, Gatsby was doing everything he could to relive the moment when they first met, and also constantly looks at Daisy's dock. He used his self made wealth just to impress Daisy, further proving his obsession for her.
DeleteIn the aspect of hope, Gatsby was always hoping that he could once again reunite with Daisy and prove his worth to her. It was important for him to show Daisy what wealth he had achieved. This was apparent when he gave her a tour of his mansion. In the aspect of the American Dream, Gatsby could only fulfill this by achieving success (wealth) and marrying the girl of his dreams. It was all about Daisy, who I believe was Gatsby’s greenlight.
DeleteBrandon Cate, Per 5
Yes, I thnk Daisy was Gastby's green light. We talked about how the green light represented hope/dreams. Well, Gatsby was hoping for a long time to get back together with Daisy. It was practically all he cared about. He threw those parties hoping she would show up to one of them. When they got together, he stopped throwing the parties because he didn't need them since he already had her.
DeleteArianna Montano Per.6
Yes, Daisy was Gatsby's green light. In chapter 5, Gatsby directly mentions the green light to Daisy. He states "You always have a green light that burns all night at the end of your dock." This clearly shows that Daisy is Gatsby's green light. Gatsby wanted to get back together with Daisy and this hope is represented by the green light.
DeleteClara Kwon P6
So why do you guys think that Daisy doesn't treat her daughter very well?
ReplyDeleteArianna Montano per. 6
She doesn't want Daisy to become a strong, , intelligent, opinionated woman. She wants her to be naive and allow men to take care of her because women at that time did not have much right to do anything.
DeleteYoumi Pang per.6
She wanted her daughter to grow up to be a "beautiful little fool" because then she wouldn't have to deal with the reality of life and how difficult it may be. Daisy didn't want her daughter to end up like her and go through all that she had endured.
DeleteErin Resurreccion
Period 6
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ReplyDeletewhat do you think the colors of Gatsby's shirts represent?
ReplyDeleteAs for his gold and silver attire, I think it meant his wealth. He used it to try and impress Daisy when they first met again at Nick's house. He's trying to show her that he has money now and he's better than before.
DeleteErin Resurreccion
Period 6